(Moderator: jchaffraix, Scribe: dpranke)

(Notes in progress)

How can we get more people hacking on rendering?

* accelerated compositing is tied to a layer (a very old concept)
  * can we make layers better or faster?

* can we talk about security and the impact of specific design decisions in the render tree (inferno, bethdakin?)

* jchaffraix: from study tables, thinks layers are the wrong abstraction
  * as a general rule, the render object knows what its own structure should be
    * because layers are generic, they don't know and have to do more work
    * they do too much
        * repainting
        * clipping
        * compositing
        * stacking
        * scrolling

* eseidel: layers are designed to allow the rendering tree to be lightweight
  * layers exist to handle the more "advanced" features of rendering
  * smfr: layers designed to solve problems like scrolling and clipping that affect a set of render objects in one go