(Moderator: jchaffraix, Scribe: dpranke)

(Notes in progress)

How can we get more people hacking on rendering?

• accelerated compositing is tied to a layer (a very old concept)
  • can we make layers better or faster?

• can we talk about security and the impact of specific design decisions in the render tree (inferno, bethdakin?)

• jchaffraix: from study tables, thinks layers are the wrong abstraction
  • as a general rule, the render object knows what its own structure should be
    • because layers are generic, they don't know and have to do more work
    • they do too much
      • repainting
      • clipping
      • compositing
      • stacking
      • scrolling

• eseidel: layers are designed to allow the rendering tree to be lightweight
  • layers exist to handle the more "advanced" features of rendering
  • smfr: layers designed to solve problems like scrolling and clipping that affect a set of render objects in one go